The Jesus thing always gets in the way.

Did you ever think Rob Reiner — director of such favorites as “When Harry Met Sally,” “Princess Bride” and “Spinal Tap” — would make a movie about Christian nationalism? Inconceivable, right? Well, that word doesn’t mean what you think it means and yes, he did. The documentary, “God & Country,” directed by Dan Partland and produced by Reiner, is based on the book “Power Worshipers” by Katherine Stewart and features a who’s who of Christian thinkers (left, middle and slightly right of the ever-shifting center).

On this episode, Katelyn and Roxy talk to Partland and Reiner about why Christian nationalism is, in fact, distinct from Christianity. And we wonder when an American flag next to the pulpit crosses over into the danger zone. 


  • Dan Partland is a veteran documentary producer and director. He has won two Emmys, for American High and Intervention.
  • Rob Reiner is the acclaimed director for many of America’s favorite films, including “When Harry Met Sally,” “Princess Bride” and “Stand By Me.”

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